waste management company. 76 employees, but these aren't the people that are getting the big green energy contracts or the billions of dollars going out to different companies, right? these are the special interest. >> it's the real people doing the job that create the jobs. it's the hardware store, it's the catering business that hires people to get through. it's the papa john. i respect him even more than i did before for taking a stand on health care. the rule that full-time employees are 30 hours? i'd love to only work 30 hours, well, no, i wouldn't. my wife wouldn't like that, but we have got to address that. >> and the final word here, stan. >> sure, bottom line, electorate, citizens of the united states must do something different. let's not continue to do the same thing and expect a different result. and i'd say, unaffiliate, we'll get attention that way. you think about the election, what happens. do we need election, the focus is on the independents, the undecided. they have the power. well, then let's become independents. let's send the message that we don't care about party af